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  1. The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    ...butterflies not only in Japanese society, but also on the entire world as a whole, that it is still too early or forced to try to talk about anime and pop culture that early in this timeline. Just as a simple (and very simplified and exaggerated) example of something that OTL Japan...

  2. The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    Oh. You're right.

  3. The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    Anime is just Japanese animation. Unless either Japan gets completely destroyed or animation is never developed, there will be some form of anime, even if it's drastically different.

  4. The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    I agree with this statement. But like I said, anime still might get butterflied away in TTL. (Mostly likely case scenario)

  5. The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    ...Sure, it could become a theocratic hellhole, but it could also become a democratic, liberal society where religion has largely lost its influence by the time anime comes around. Trying to make any judgments about anime at this time is beyond premature, we haven't even left the 17th century yet.

  6. The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    Anime might be butterflied away in TTL. Also, anime will not rise until the invention of animation itself.
  7. Avrorrange

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    I’m sure the various Catholic monks sent by the pope will kindly remind the Nihonjin that Iconoclasm is a form of HERESY.

  8. The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    That seems incredibly extreme, its not as if though Europe abandoned all pre-Christian fiction after Constantine and Theodosius, quite the opposite in fact. And Catholicism has already determined Iconoclasm to be heretical.
  9. Mitridates the Great

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    ...the Bible where it is said that depicting images of God is blasphemous and impious, and "apply analogy" with the Golden Fleece to say that the anime promotes idolatry of false gods and "unholy speculation without foundation on what could have been and never was. Because history is as it is...
  10. CASSICTOR2

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    How would it be ban anime, or least the equivalent of it? If they made it in the first place and the likely share and even promote their values of Christendom across Asia
  11. Quinkana

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    From what we've read from the tl it makes no sense that the replacement of Kanji with romanji is that abrupt of a process, and I have said that it only occurs around the 19th century. It'd be a gradual process, not one which goes through quickly. yes they most likely would have some version of...
  12. TimTurner

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    ...existing methods. And if it is the way you are saying here, well, something being labor-intensive really isn't a huge problem. Otherwise the anime and manga industry would not exist in large scale OTL. The mountain of issues with getting rid of kanji (loss of cultural identity, greater loss...
  13. Quinkana

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    eh counter culture would prevent it from being actually killed. Popular culture would still keep stuff like this alive. you have to remember that ittl Japan is very different than otl japan. European influence will become a lot more prevalent in Japanese culture, and homonyms could be lessened...
  14. Mitridates the Great

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    This is assuming that Holy Nippon don't ban the anime as "immoral and anti-Christian"

  15. The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    Hate to be a parrot, but everything so far in this TL will cause so many butterflies not only in Japan, but also for the rest of the world, that as a result, anime and manga as we know it would likely not look like how it does IOTL.
  16. CASSICTOR2

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    No I mean like a ENTIRE ANIME about him and his rebellion, not just a minor character on a bigger Series

  17. The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    I mean he's already in Fate in OTL
  18. TimTurner

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    And at least a dozen manga.
  19. CASSICTOR2

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    First the 16 year old prophecy of Christendom, winning a civil war against a more powerful shogunate, then becoming the first Christian emperor under a New Japan and now have a whole era name after Shiro? Shiro would definitely going to have an anime in this Scenario
  20. The Gybson Boy

    The Chrysanthemum Under the Cross: Christian Japan's Timeline

    That reminds me, Musashi would still be alive, he is 54 years old at the start of the Rebellion
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